I
recently had an hour long conversation
with a couple from the Jehovah's
Witness'. I have had a few
conversations with them and as
usual they want to quote from their New
World Translation, which is a very flawed
translation in an attempt to help hold up to some
of their unusual claims. Obviously
the difference in translations makes it
that much harder to agree on any point
of contention. When there are such
fundamental differences in translations
and interpretation of the bible to the
point even the divinity of Jesus is
being denied how can the there be common
ground? I am far from being an
accomplished apologist able to make
profound points by citing numerous bible
verses and then rattling off different
sources for their correct translation
from Greek or Hebrew so I must find
another way.
How many
people do you think change their faith
based on how someone else interprets the
bible? Not many I would guess.
Most people who debate their faith are
pretty entrenched in their beliefs.
I am not saying we should not provide
biblical evidence for our faith, we
definitely should when asked, I am just
saying it is not us - it is the Holy
Spirit that will guide someone to the
truth if they are open to it.
Truth,
that is the key word, what is it and how
do we know what it is. Along with
the Catholic Church there are thousands
of Protestant Christian denominations
and a few non-Christian groups such as
the Jehovah's Witness and Mormon groups
that claim to be based on the bible.
Each claims to have the truth based on
how they read the bible. I asked
the Witness' about the importance of
truth and how to know what is true.
Where did the bible come from?
From Jehovah was the answer. Did
it fall in book form from the sky?
No. How do you know what should be
in the bible - the bible does not tell
you what books should be included.
Jesus told us he was building His
church on Peter the Rock and Jesus
founded only one church promising Satan
would not overcome His church. He then
sent His church out into the world to
spread His truth - wouldn't you
reasonably conclude He
intended for His church to be "truthful"
and would protect that truth? The
canon of the Catholic bible was accepted
until Martin Luther broke away from the
Church in the 16th century removing
seven books which did not agree with
his interpretation. Since the
Catholic church through the guidance of
the Holy Spirit determined the canon of
scripture it would be reasonable to
think the Catholic Church would be the
instrument to interpret the bible.
If Jesus did not intend for His church,
the Catholic church to be this
instrument on earth how did He intend
for us to know the truth. Of
course he sends the Holy Spirit to guide
us, but and this is the big one, we are
imperfect. If it were easy to
interpret all of scripture we
would not need the Church. All of
the different denominations claim they
are following the teachings of Jesus
Christ but hardly any of the non
Catholic denominations teach the same
things about salvation. Some teach
a profession of faith is all that is
needed "accepting Jesus as Lord" some
others you need baptism in water or it
might be you need to speak in tongues to
be saved.
Catholics
have believed for almost 2000 years
our Lord provided us with the
Church to be that teaching tool. I do not know how I could claim the
bible as true without the Catholic
Church! Why could not any other
book be included as true such as some of
the Gnostic writings which are popular
now like the "Gospel of Thomas" or "The
secret book of James". Gnostic
writings claim to have a "secret
knowledge" you need to get to heaven.
The early Church determined the canon of
scripture by examining writings and
seeing if they held to what Jesus
taught. Looking at the early
church then is essential in learning
what Jesus taught followed then by His
apostles.
An
excellent source of the writings of the
early church are the three volumes of
"The Faith of the Early Fathers" by
William A Jurgens. This is a
collection of the writings of some of
the earliest Christians which has
survived. Some of these writings
are from Christians shortly after our
Lord died from the likes of St. Clement
in the year 80 or throughout early
Christianity. Some examples of
writings of what the early church
believed follow:
If you
look at the early church it is evident
that they did believe what we believe
and why we believe. The early
Christians followed their Bishops (the
bishops in unison with the pope ) as
evidenced in this early writing from
Ignatius in AD 110
" For Jesus
Christ, our inseparable life, is the
will of the Father, just as the bishops
, who have been appointed throughout the
world, are the will of Jesus Christ
(emphasis mine)....
It is fitting, therefore , that you
should live in harmony with the will of
the bishop - as, indeed you do".
Also you
can see examples of Irenaeus written
somewhere around AD 180 where he defends
the church against some of the Gnostic
heresies. Here he is commenting on
the truthfulness of scripture and the
apostolic succession of bishops.
"The true
gnosis is the doctrine of the
Apostles, and the ancient organization
of the Church throughout the whole
world, and the manifestation of the body
of Christ according to the succession of
bishops, by which successions the
bishops have handed down the Church
which is found everywhere; and the very
complete tradition of the Scriptures,
which have come down to us by being
guarded against falsification, and which
are received without addition or
deletion (emphasis mine)..."